Origins of "La femme d'argent" and the name AIR

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Origins of "La femme d'argent" and the name AIR

Postby irem77 » Mon Feb 20, 2006 6:54 pm

Hi all

This are the two AIR puzzles that i still couldn't solve:

1. The origin of "La femme d'argent": Years ago, someone posted a link to an audio file very close to the starting song of Moon Safari. But i can't remember where i did read that. Closest thing i found so far is Lady Magnolia from Piero Umiliani.
http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/clipserve/B00002MYZY001015/303-7141445-4146619

2. The origin of the band name AIR:
Also some years ago, i think it was in an air interview, it was mentioned that the letters AIR mean something like "Atmosphère Imagination Rêve".
Is anyone able to confirm that.

Would be great if anyone could help me solve that puzzles.

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Postby bacteriaburger » Mon Feb 20, 2006 10:40 pm

1. The origin of "La femme d'argent": Years ago, someone posted a link to an audio file very close to the starting song of Moon Safari. But i can't remember where i did read that. Closest thing i found so far is Lady Magnolia from Piero Umiliani.


Not sure what you're looking for, but the first song on Serge Gainsbourg's "Histoire de Melody Nelson" has some striking similarities to La Femme D'Argent.
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Postby Dirty Thib » Tue Feb 21, 2006 1:19 am

I've read that Nicolas wanted the name Air because of the aesthetic of the word, the power of its image. I've read that the letters AIR stand for Amour Imagination Rêve. I don't know for LA FEMME D'ARGENT.
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Postby donato » Wed Feb 22, 2006 11:25 pm

Good 'old Easy Tempo. I don't think that's really all that close. There's a lot of stuff that Air has subtly ripped off, but I wouldn't say that's one of them. They did however more directly rip off the drum part to La Femme. I'm not sure if someone has a link to that one, but it may be in the archives on this site somewhere...
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Postby apollo » Thu Feb 23, 2006 9:49 am

donato wrote:Good 'old Easy Tempo. I don't think that's really all that close. There's a lot of stuff that Air has subtly ripped off, but I wouldn't say that's one of them. They did however more directly rip off the drum part to La Femme. I'm not sure if someone has a link to that one, but it may be in the archives on this site somewhere...


Yeah, the drums are ripped from a '95 (I believe) bossa nova record. A record collector let me hear it once. It's exactly the same, only air speeded it up a bit.

I don't know about the chords. They could have been done before. I read tons of speculation about it, but never convincing to me.
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Postby irem77 » Sun Feb 26, 2006 8:41 am

Hi Apollo and Dirty Thib

Do you guys remember where you read about this stuff ?

I read tons of speculation about it, but never convincing to me.

I've read that the letters AIR stand for Amour Imagination Rêve.

Apollo the one this record collector let you listen to, could it be the track "Use me" from Bill Withers ?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/music/clipserve/B00004THKR001012/1/ref=mu_sam_ra001_012/104-2269963-3966332

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Postby apollo » Sun Feb 26, 2006 10:53 am

irem77 wrote:Do you guys remember where you read about this stuff ?


No, not really, sorry.



No, it's not that one. The beat was exactly the same, only slower.
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Postby astr0 » Sun Feb 26, 2006 2:21 pm

on Wikipedia I read, La femme... features samples of Can Future Days and Edwin Starr's Hell Up in Harlem. I don't know the tunes, so I can't confirm.
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Postby colas » Sun Feb 26, 2006 2:48 pm

I can confirm that AIR stands for Amour Imagination Rêve (Love Imagination Dream)
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Postby astr0 » Sun Feb 26, 2006 2:50 pm

how?
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Postby irem77 » Sun Feb 26, 2006 3:54 pm

Hi astro and colas

Thanks alot for your contributions, would be nice of you, to post the links to the related sources.

I finally solved one puzzle:

La femme d'argent was inspired by the track Runnin by Edwin Starr
Listen to it: http://demonstr.antville.org/getfile?name=edwin+starr+-+runnin

I found the comparison on this great website: http://demonstr.antville.org/topics/Musik:+zitiert,+inspiriert,+abgekupfert/

Still one puzzle so solve:
I would really like to read about some proof for Amour Imagination Rêve.

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Postby astr0 » Sun Feb 26, 2006 4:05 pm

this is the french Wiki entry: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_(groupe)

*edit*: for some reason the HTML-tags don't work... :?:

there's also a book called "Une femme d'argent". http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/14820
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